a little advice please | restoring an old newspaper photos
tiny and horrible quality.
i said i'd do it. it's photos (the only ones) of the first ferry we had here. (the ferry trips are getting so expensive that we're trying to restore the old wharf. the pilings are still in great shape, but the deck was dismantled by the province about 10 years ago. the pics would be used as part of an awareness campaign.)
*sigh* i said i'd do it before i saw the pic.
i'm actually, atm, just sort of painting over it and trying to 100% identify everything. the top pic of the men on the boat will be reasonably easy; the bottom pic is a nightmare.
i figure a lot of you have experience with trying to salvage really crappy graphics; i'm hoping for tips or tricks that will help me not fail utterly.
here's the tiff of the newpaper clipping: help?
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i said i'd do it. it's photos (the only ones) of the first ferry we had here. (the ferry trips are getting so expensive that we're trying to restore the old wharf. the pilings are still in great shape, but the deck was dismantled by the province about 10 years ago. the pics would be used as part of an awareness campaign.)
*sigh* i said i'd do it before i saw the pic.
i'm actually, atm, just sort of painting over it and trying to 100% identify everything. the top pic of the men on the boat will be reasonably easy; the bottom pic is a nightmare.
i figure a lot of you have experience with trying to salvage really crappy graphics; i'm hoping for tips or tricks that will help me not fail utterly.
here's the tiff of the newpaper clipping: help?
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i fixed the link, nimmot, thanks. i set a new record. there were 5 errors in that one link.
seriously, i don't think there is anything you can do with them. i was thinking that the jpg you posted was a very small representation of the original file but NOPE, that's pretty much it. honestly, at 75 dpi i don't think there is enough pixel data to be able to salvage anything out of these. did somebody scan these and email them to you? do you have original photos that could possibly be sent to some place to be drum scanned?
sorry mick. probably not the response you were looking for but after taking a look at it, that is my opinion. garbage in garbage out imo.
i have to do something with it; i said i would.
i've got a couple of weeks.
mondo.. your ad intrigues me, and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter. *nod*
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or the gurus above may know a better way, this is a pretty old [many versions ago] method...
good advice here. what i know about scanners and resolution can be written on my pinkie-tip.
i'd have never thought of rotating and scanning again.
i had no idea they were at 75dpi. heh
and.. bull's tiny tut is damfine. i've clipped and saved it.
i'm encouraged. and i MAY have until July 1
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ps.. i like mondo's idea very much about the artist's impression. i'd like to maybe do both.
come to find that they are "preserved" with a sheet of sticky transparent stuff. ojoy.
i rotated, scanned at 250 dpi, then rotated it so i could see it. the polkadots are much smaller, y'all were right.
it IS a better pic. there are elements in the other pic that i misidentified, and i'm feeling a little more confident.
comments, please? i'm looking for magic, here.
almost 7MB psd
IF you can get another chance to re-scan that'd be good.
Re-scanning at insanely high res (1000, 2400dpi - the more the better) then reducing the dpi in photoshop will cause the image to be interpolated... basically the gaps between the dot pattern magically fill in. This has worked well for me in the past
I reduced the dpi from 250 (as your original) to 100.
i've bookmarked the moiré page, nimmot. .. heh and i thought moire was all about fabric. *nod* it's about weave and light.
you have no idea, people, how utterly grateful i am. thanks to you all, i am not going to fail miserably. it's already majorly improved.
i knew i was coming for help to the right bunch. you all KNOW crappy graphics!
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what i thought was water on the left bottom of the pic is beach..
i can see the mail house on the end of the wharf.
i can see the "rescue" canoes trailing after the Rex. i can see more of the Rex behind the ferry raft that it's hogged to. i can see the shapes of the fishing boats, and the rafts tied to the wharf.
nicko..... you did something else besides the reducing the dpi. how did you smooth out the colour and lighten it? i played around, and didn't get anything as nice as you did.
i rescanned at 2400 dpi then reduced to 200 and 100 dpi (2 pics)
i'm just flabbergasted.
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http://homepage.mac.com/m1ck/.Pictures/wharf pix/2400_dpi_to_100
http://homepage.mac.com/m1ck/.Pictures/wharf pix/2400_dpi_to_200
*makes mental note*
If you want a higher res pic then reduce the 2400 dpi scan to 300. That was the nugget of info I managed to leave out of my post yesterday
i was here earlier, and read what you wrote about 2400 >300 dpi
so i got on my bike
and i rode 8 km to the school and broke in to use their scanner. (j/k i have a key).
the computer that is hooked to the scanner is a PPC 6500 i fixed and donated to them. it has a floppy drive and an internal zip drive. zip disks only hold 100 MB. scanning at 2400 made a nearly 500 MB file. the computer nearly choked to death, and i had to use PS 3 to reduce it to 300 dpi so i could transfer it to my external zip drive at home.
i'm just sayin'... i am done scanning, i think.
http://homepage.mac.com/m1ck/.Pictures/wharf pix/2400_300
i may be able to pull this off after all.
i don't know how to thank all of you enough for how far you've gotten me. i was foolish to take it on sight unseen, and that's another lesson learned.
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no I don't remember. I was just fooling around to get to what I got to
Dust and Scrathes at the minimum setting to blow out the dot, and sharpen edges (but faded back) to draw the detailed edge back, lighten using Curves, and resized to 150dpi. I agree with hires scan and using this process it will elimanate the screening. This took me about 2 minutes, but you could invest more time on concentrating on areas that don't work so well.
i'm just learning about curves adjustments; heh.. i was feeling "pro" when i figured out the levels sliders.
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look where you've taken me. (all improvements are credited to my advisors. all crap and bad work is solely my own.)
Tiff
i'll take any and all criticism, please. i already can see that i've got to rough up the edges of the "paper" frame.
golly, you are a fine bunch of pixel wrestlers.
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Actual size, but there's a much larger version if mick wants:
I sort of rearranged a couple of things to sex up the Rex and...er, no, it was really to cover up mistakes. :awkward:
nice ketch duder!nice sketch duder!
[hide]little nautical joke for you land lubbers :happy:[/hide]
@mondo-Nice!
thank you, orsonomio. like i said.. all improvements are ^ their fault. *nod*
i'm pretty amazed.
you are my heroes.
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the pics i "fixed" with your help are going to be the front page of a brochure about the island's dependence on water traffic, as part of our bid to get the wharf restored and operational again one day soon.
sweet.