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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    yeah, but.. i was kinda rooting for them. :)
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    As much as I'd love a cheap Intel Mac tower, Apple is within their legal right to not offer one - and prevent anyone else from offering one, as well.

    Psystar should instead focus on improving free OSs, rather than try to wrangle with Apple in court. If they invested that chunk of money into Linux, for example, we could end up with cheap PC-based towers that are better to use - and it would light a fire under Apple to make larger improvements. Microsoft is a sorry excuse for a a competitor.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    fair point. ;)


    as a matter of fact, if Apple hardwires DRM-like (don't know the actual name of the tech they've patented) chips into their future products, i might become more Linux-ized myself.
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    I hear ya there. The DRM disappointed me - something very similar was being touted by Microsoft for inclusion in Vista, and caused a massive uproar at the time. Now, not so much.
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      CommentAuthorblueshead
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    Linux is fun.. If you wish to compile all the shit that does not work.. Hackintosh an X86 PC.. lolz just as much fun.. And at the moment I'm doing both.. Pain in the ass.. :happy:
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    i thought those days were over. :(

    my first try at Linux was in '99; it was pretty much a series of fails.
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    Ubuntu's relatively simple to get up and running.

    I'm currently running it within VMWare, but I've also run it on a spare PC box before. It definitely needs some more work, but it's come far in the past couple of years.
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      CommentAuthorblueshead
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008 edited
     
    flak said...Ubuntu's relatively simple to get up and running.

    I'm currently running it within VMWare, but I've also run it on a spare PC box before. It definitely needs some more work, but it's come far in the past couple of years.


    I agree flak.. It's easy to install.. But won't get my wifi working.. As I'm dual booting it and XP.. I'm not ready to compile the wifi driver on Ubuntu's side.. as it will flash the card and fuck up the PC side.... The strange thing is.. I also run a "live" Linux CD called backtrack and my Intel Antenna and a Quickertek R83 usb antenna work out of the box.. Ubuntu needs to pick up the ball on wifi connection..
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     
    Ah - yeah, VMWare uses some standard hardware, so everything pretty much works in there (though I haven't tried WiFi). Haven't used it on real hardware in a few years.

    Looks like BackTrack originated from Knoppix, so that might be easier to get up and running than Ubuntu. I keep a Knoppix Live CD around for troubleshooting PCs, but you can also install it onto a partition.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     
    heh.. i was always boggled at the sheer number of distros. what ever happened to the cheap computers from... i think..Walmart.. that were Linux boxes? it seemed like a good way for someone to have a decent word processor and use the internet/email.

    i just read an article from yesterday's TUAW about the whole (now i know the term) HDCP control thing from Apple. it's disheartening to think they consider copyright law is somehow violated when you watch a movie on a monitor that isn't on their list of approved hardware. the movie companies are designing monitors for Apple now? hmmm that whole Pixar tie-in is there.....

    dunno. i still think it'd be cool to have bespoke Macs available. i don't do movies, so i wouldn't want a fancy monitor or AppleTV, but gee whiz. they're going to make a pirate of me, just out of sheer perversity.

    ;)
    • CommentAuthorBiff
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     
    Old hardware doesn't light on fire as the new stuff comes out. Old machines will still play HD movies fine.
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      CommentAuthorGffMaC
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     
    so what distro would you guys recommend playing with for linux noobs? i.e. get everything running movie codecs, burning, wifi etc without knowing how to fix all that stuff in terminal?

    Just found this best linux guide
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008 edited
     
    Bearing in mind that I don't use it consistently - I'd recommend burning a Knoppix Live CD and booting from that for a good Linux experience.

    If you'd prefer to install to a hard drive, partition, or virtualized machine (VMWare), then I'd recommend Ubuntu. NOT Kubuntu, just regular old Ubuntu.

    In fact, if you're running VMWare, hop on over to their site - community members install and configure images that you can download. Drivers already installed, configured, everything. It's pretty sweet, you just download the image and double click it. It boots!
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      CommentAuthorblueshead
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     
    You can also run Ubuntu live to get a feel for it before you decide on an install. Ubuntu also has a version that will run on PPC macs if you want to dual boot it and OSX.
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2008
     
    mick said...i just read an article from yesterday's TUAW about the whole (now i know the term) HDCP control thing from Apple. it's disheartening to think they consider copyright law is somehow violated when you watch a movie on a monitor that isn't on their list of approved hardware. the movie companies are designing monitors for Apple now? hmmm that whole Pixar tie-in is there.....

    dunno. i still think it'd be cool to have bespoke Macs available. i don't do movies, so i wouldn't want a fancy monitor or AppleTV, but gee whiz. they're going to make a pirate of me, just out of sheer perversity.

    ;)


    Here's a great article on the subject, when HDCP was proposed for Vista.

    The author makes a case that Apple wouldn't have a choice in the matter, either - I'm sure that's what has happened.

    P.S. - Pirates don't have this problem. Only paying customers. Become a pirate. :D
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    flak said... Become a pirate


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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2008
     
    Or, in some cases, continue to be a pirate. ;)

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