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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    Its here where I work. Two out of our 4 man department are going :awkward: 43 people from the Liverpool sites.

    We are working our temporary 30 days notice now. To finish on the 4th of December. Great timing as usual with these type of things :depressed:

    Hopefully I'll have a job this christmas!
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    fingers crossed matey X

    my wife and i both had redundancy reviews at our respective offices this month - dicey stuff as we have a house purchase underway - fortunately we have a 9 and 12 month reprieve (when the dates have been set for the next review)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    good luck with that, squap!

    also, i didn't know you were also up for a possible, urb?
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    Thanks for the support chris and urban.

    I hope things pick up in the economy, especially now you're buying that house, urban.
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      CommentAuthorVe.
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    hoping for the best for you guys! :-(

    wanna move here? :-)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    well, record cut in interest rates should stir something up. i guess as long as the tabloids quieten down all the doom and gloom stories for a while.
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    chris said...i didn't know you were also up for a possible, urb?
    every architect i know is chris
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    crap, sorry to hear that squap and urb

    chris, it's unlikely that the banks will pass on a cut in interest rates :/
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    a few have already said that they will, but not a whole 1.5%, and maybe not straight away hehe.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    Oh
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      CommentAuthormiddigit
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    fingers crossed for you squapp, redundancy sucks :(
    • CommentAuthorsinar
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    What is your specific craft and where are you located in case someone here might catch wind of an opportunity.
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      CommentAuthorchicken
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2008
     
    damn. good luck, squapple.

    there's a shitty worldwide recession coming our way in 2009 and I'm hoping it won't get too uncomfortable for all of us here.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    sinar said...What is your specific craft and where are you located in case someone here might catch wind of an opportunity.

    beautiful print design, merseyside area.
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    spoke to my neighbour this morning - came back from holiday last week and no more job - she worksed for goldman sachs

    she has a 9 month baby and a massive mortgage
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    urbansurgeon said...spoke to my neighbour this morning - came back from holiday last week and no more job - she worksed for goldman sachs

    she has a 9 month baby and a massive mortgage


    ^ Ouch

    Fingers crossed guys.
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008 edited
     
    If worst comes to worst we'll all chip in for air tickets to China...
    They say they're not going to have a recession!

    Certainly architects but I'm not sure about their design market!



    :)
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    a friend of mine just shipped off to china to avoid the crunch - he's hopelessly underqualified/inexperienced for the job they've given him but he figures by the time they figure that out he can come back to europe into a job
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    oh squapple... crap. i assume that part of the time you spend on the job in the next 30 days will be taken up by polishing your portfolio. :) that'd be something to see, btw.... you are ace.

    and yeah.. hang in there, urb and maxi; i'm glad there's at least a reprieve, and your heads aren't buried in the sand. (unlikely)

    the competition for graphic work here is getting cutthroat already. everyone's tightening belts and budgets. new campaigns are being cancelled.

    friends are undercutting each other. :(

    and our economy isn't that badly affected.... .yet.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    chris said...
    sinar said...What is your specific craft and where are you located in case someone here might catch wind of an opportunity.

    beautiful print design, merseyside area.

    This is about right, Sinar

    Cheers, chris ;)

    Thanks everyone else as well. I'll share some pages from the pf
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      CommentAuthormeska
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    Sorry to hear that guys :(
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    I think I'd consider relocating if i found something worth while as well :)
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    orly?
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    I think so yes :)
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    Are you just print or a web jockey too?
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    print only mate. I never fancied doing web stuff
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    Ah... can you mail me your cv anyways?

    nick.raven@gmail.com
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    yeah, cheers nick, I'll sort that out for you from home ;)
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      CommentAuthorCPU
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008 edited
     
    squapple said...print only mate. I never fancied doing web stuff

    neither me, but that didnt stop me from selling it ;)

    good luck mate!
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2008
     
    I hear you, mate ;)

    I think because I know nothing about web software, the thought is daunting to start from the beginning it!

    I may decide to learn one day, in the mean time I'm channeling my skills through the print process.
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    i was listening to Tim Bray from Sun giving a speech to webby people on how to survive the downturn and having told the audience that a whole bunch would lose their jobs he then said it is a great opportuinity to 'skill up'. his main thust was that programmers would learn fundamentals of design and that (web) designers learn basics of simple coding.

    the link above has the bullet points or you can watch the interesting talk online
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    round 2 of interviews taking place next month :(

    thing is we aren't short of work for the people we have - instead we are struck with 6+ months of bad client debt
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    I think that is a similar problem to here. We are so busy. The graphics department has only 4 designers including the senior. And they are making 2 of us redundant. Ive no idea how we'll cope once the two have gone!
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    by contracting freelancers at a higher rate, of course.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    lol. Probably, yes!!!
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      CommentAuthorzippie
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    I agree with sock it's the media that are making this so called credit crunch and recession much worse.

    Good luck to all of you, unfortunately companies will use this as an opportunity to save money only to pay the hierarchy more...
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    freelancers is how hospitals handle it. it's not required to save money overall, but the money allowed for each section is written in stone for the year.

    they shortstaff and don't hire, then contract for a temp at 4-5 times the hourly wage of a staff nurse. best i can figure is that old "different columns" thing. each department has a budget; the pay for temps comes from a different allocation.

    yeah, i know it's different, but the mindset seems the same.
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    tbh there are a couple of people who have been let go that the office is quite glad to have found an excuse to do so
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      CommentAuthorzippie
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    hospitals here take that approach as well, it is a case of just putting the temp costs under a different code. Stupidity rules!
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    urbansurgeon said...tbh there are a couple of people who have been let go that the office is quite glad to have found an excuse to do so

    This always happens. I've interviewed designers (in the UK) that claim they were made redundant after 9/11. Seemingly the clients the company worked for had little to do with any relationship to travel etc.

    SOME companies see it as a "sorting the what from the chaff" opportunity. Pretty crappy really
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    more a matter of soft targets
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      CommentAuthorfranco
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    htd has just been made redundant, his position ends at Xmas. :( Scary days.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    hmmmm :awkward: sorry to hear that.

    Its the timing with ours which disappoints me as well.
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      CommentAuthorfranco
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    Indeed. I'm really sorry to hear about your work, squapple. Best of luck to you with that!
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    squapple, that 30 days went fast. gah. you going to be ok for a while? got any cushion at all?


    franco, i'm sorry to hear about htd.

    tanj
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    Ive got a bit of work to fall back on so I'll be ok for a few months at least. Its just not a good time for anyone at the moment. I'm hearing everyday about people in the same situation to me as well :awkward:

    chin up!
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    you have been told you are leaving?
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    No not yet, chris. I may not either but you just never know who its going to be. Ive been here longer than the others and have more experience etc. But they may want to cut the wages down. I'll find out on the 4th anyway!
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    so you've still got some cushion; that's good. the thirty days thing seems like such a cruel burden to put on a group of people.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     
    yeah, it is. My father told me that when he worked at Littlewoods (large UK company), they always had the one month consulting period as well. Cruel. We'd be better knowing straight away for peace of mind. I bet the managers are well aware who will be going as well!

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