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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2008
     
    they're all dead. it's my fault.

    i was moving the run, and a neighbour came roaring up in her car to get me.. old guy down the road had collapsed. they'd called 911, but the island emerg team was on another call. they told her to get me, and they'd be there asap.

    he was stone dead (and a DNR) so i just did what needed to be done....


    but when i left, i didn't close the cage around the run.

    dogs


    (ok, i'm crying again)

    it looks like at least 4-5 dogs.. they just pushed the run over. maimed and killed all the rabbits. they didn't even eat them.

    24 does and 2 bucks died in pain and terror.

    it was my fault. yes, if i could find the people who let their dogs run loose, i'd go after them, but it was my fault. i ran off and didn't secure the cage.


    i've taken pride in keeping animals well. i slaughter my rabbits and chickens without pain or fear, and i make sure they have a good life up until it's time to harvest them. the rabbits were calm, confident and healthy. 1/3 of the winter's meat supply.


    it was my fault. i'm so sorry. i was a mess alll yesterday evening and last night. i'm still cleaning the area. blood and offal everywhere.

    hubris strikes again.

    :(
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2008
     
    Sorry, mick. It was an accident, though...you meant well.

    Here's a snippet of what's been on my mind tonight...I just found out about this:

    WARNING - DON'T CLICK UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS

    http://singaporebeauty.com/img/catkiller1.jpg

    WARNING - DON'T CLICK UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS

    They killed the kitten, slowly and painfully. For entertainment, apparently. One of the commenters said the video is worse, as you can hear the poor thing crying all the way through.

    I truly don't understand it, and it just makes me hate people when I see things like this.

    Anyway...

    *hugs*

    I'm glad that's not you.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
     
    thank you for at least trying to offer comfort, flak. i appreciate your kindness. i really feel awful ... and am a little sad that i posted this here. it's not what fazylucker people care to read about, really.

    i didn't click.
    (i know that different cultures have different attitudes toward animals, but torture is torture.)



    ........just wrote on my forearm with a sharpie pen. "at least you don't torture kittens".
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      CommentAuthorjussi-k
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008 edited
     
    We used to have bunnies as well. They were most slaughtered by the cats of the neighbourhood. The scream that a bunny in distress makes is just plain horrible. Once when I was returning from our cottage in the forest, I came home just as a cat had caught one of the bunnies from a cage that was open from the top. The sound was horrible. 18 out of our 20 bunnies did not make it trough the summer. They kept digging themselves out of the pen trough the ground at night and got loose. They lived "wild-ish" on our yard. 2 of them were so badass that they survived for years and years. Our yard was ridden with holes that they dug there.

    I am pretty sure it was not how you are supposed to keep them animals :D They moved about as they pleased. Sometimes they came inside to feed and chill out, but mostly they just lied stretched out on the lawn. And chilled out.

    I hope that the dogs that killed your rabbits are now caught and kept on a leash. Loose dog pack can get very nasty. They are way way worse than wolves. (they do not hunt to feed, they are just plain insane)
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
     
    We've got wild bunnies that live in our neighborhood. Sometimes in our backyard, sometimes in other neighbors' backyards. One of my neighbors doesn't really tend to his backyard, so it's kind of a jungle - lots of animals live back there. ;)

    I keep seeing the bunnies around, so even though there are cats, they seem to coexist fine. I know my cat's too big and slow to really catch anything, so that's a plus. :D

    As for the link...it's a woman digging her high-heeled shoe into a kitten's face, until it went all the way through. One of those things you can't "un-see," unfortunately. :(

    I'm glad you posted, truly. If you need to chat, give me a shout.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008 edited
     
    jussi, i've never heard that sound, or had cats bother the rabbits, but i also protected the bunnies. (note past tense)

    the run i use goes into a 15 cm deep slot (4 sides) that i "carve" where i want to move it. the cage was the protection, the run just keep the rabbits contained, and i moved it every few days. i've never had a rabbit tunnel out.

    i take the modular approach to the chicken yard, too. everything is movable. the "house" is on skids and can be moved with effort. the chicken yard is configurable for the shape i need, and i move that as needed, usually monthly.

    those dogs struck swiftly; they must have just lucked out (ugh). i was only gone for 45 minutes, so they had to be nearby.

    and i'll never know for sure which dogs..... this place is VERY western and rural in some ways. populated by hippies, ricos and rednecks. it could be someone from any of those groups. people are so careless sometimes. myself included now.

    i'm still in a state of deep sadness and shame.




    again.. thanks for the kindness.

    (flak.. say no more.. i'm just appalled by that ... of course i am)

    there's no way to tell which dogs did it, and yeah, when they revert to pack behaviour they're very dangerous.


    x
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      CommentAuthorblueshead
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
     
    I've some very nice recipes, if you like..
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    Welsh Rabbit Stew Recipe


    Ingredients for Rabbit Stew


    • rabbit 1pc
    • flour 150gm
    • chicken stock 500ml
    • rosemary sprig 1pc
    • onion 1pc
    • carrot 3pc
    • potato 3pc
    • turnip 1pc
    • leek 1pc

    1. Have the rabbit cut up into portions for you by the butcher if you are not handy with doing it yourself
    2. Prepare a casserole dish by spreading the onion; finely sliced on the bottom and crushing the rosemary sprig in your hand to release the aroma and lay on top of the onion
    3. Peel and roughly chop the vegetables
    4. Season the flour with a little salt and freshly ground pepper and toss the rabbit pieces it in to lightly coat (keep the flour for later)
    5. Heat a little oil in a heavy frying pan and lightly brown the rabbit all over and place the pieces into a casserole dish
    6. Add the stock into the frying pan to lift all the sediment off the base and allow to simmer for 5 minutes. Strain over the rabbit
    7. Cover tightly and place in the oven at 180ÂșC for 2 - 3 hours until the rabbit is starting to get tender
    8. Remove from the oven, pick out any fine bones and add the vegetables. Cook for a further 40 minutes, topping up with more stock if required
    9. Remove from the oven and place the rabbit onto a tray
    10. Mix the flour with a little cold water to form a slurry, stir into the stew and cook on top of the stew while stirring until slightly thickened
    11. Add the rabbit back in and re-heat
    12. Serve with mountains (well it is a Welsh recipe) of creamy mashed potatoes
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      CommentAuthorsunk
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
     
    D-Con and a can of Hormel Chili usually takes care of the wandering dog issues.

    Dog hides also tan very nicely and may make for good slippers. (Seriously)
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      CommentAuthorzippie
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
     
    you can't blame yourself really, you did leave in an emergency so its not like you could have followed your usual checklist...

    clean the place up, buy a shotgun and then buy some more rabbits...
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    yeah, get back on that horse, mick.

    i had a rabbit that kicked ten shades of shit out of a dog that came in and 'got all up in his face' haha. i'm sure someone was feeding that rabbit steroids or something...
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    yes, i'm going to rabbit up. i've got a line on a pair of Zealand does; and they'll be bred before i bring them here.

    rabbits are fierce, but they're no match for a pack of dogs when they're trapped. i'll put this shame to good use and do it better next time.

    no recipes needed. :) i like fluffy mashed TURNIPS with my rabbit stew. i also like it good and spicy "ala blueshead".
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    ...but Turnips! No!
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      CommentAuthorjussi-k
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    I once ate chili with rabbit feet in china. It was horrible. Loads of red chili and rabbit bones. Not my cup of tea that one no.

    Now that I think of it, I do not know why I ordered that dish. Oh wait! It was in china, I could not read the menu!
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    that rabbit was probably squirrel jussi :wink:
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
     
    yes, squirrel, dog, cat everything except rabbit!


    ...don't think I've ever had rabbit, two out of four of the above isn't bad I guess, not sure I'd want squirrel though :)
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
     
    :) most animal's meat tastes a lot like what they eat. carnivore's meat is usually nasty, so maybe that wasn't cat, jussi. squirrels are hard to raise for meat, rabbits are easy. likely it was rabbit. i'm thrifty and use everything i can, and i don't try to get the meat from rabbit's feet.. the feet are really hard to skin. heh.. maybe they didn't bother.



    so... yesterday was busy. i did bunny up.

    rough tough rabbit


    ok... actually 2 great big brown NZ rabbits, both bred, and both in their second kindle. both healthy and safe.


    :)
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      CommentAuthorzippie
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
     
    ~would buy bunnies but there's too many foxes in London
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    we have loads of wild bunnies out here and prairie dogs too, sorry mick - such horrible thing to come home to.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2008
     
    we don't have a resident rabbit population. there are no skunks or possums or foxes here, either. there are raccoons, but they get live-trapped and transported off. there are otters, though. :)

    thanks for the sympathy, lafemi. the new rabbits are sorted and VERY safe, and indeed both have kindled. since they're breeding, they are in separate cages (large). i'm using the month until the next meat crop is born to do a slight redesign on the run and safety gating.

    x
    • CommentAuthorsinar
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2008
     
    Hehehe...that's one mean looking Rrr..rabbit, reminds me of the killer rabbit from the 'Holy Grail'