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      CommentAuthorelliott-20
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    I want a better (read different) life, so me, the missus and family are seriously considering emigrating from the UK.

    Fed up with the daily grind, local and national politics, the price of everything, the lack of everything and shit people we feel our little family could have a better life elsewhere. The US is out of the question, (even tho my wife is entitled to a dual nationality passport), new Zealand and Oz is just a little too far and as Canada has always been a place I wanted to go we feel it is possibly the right place.

    We're only at early stages but either Vancouver or Toronto is where we shall be concentrating our focus (for now)

    So please your thoughts, especially those from Canada, it would really help.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    Attempting to do the same. Singapore is our chosen place.

    Finding a job remotely is hard. I'm out there in October. Hope to progress things a little whilst I'm there :smile:

    Good luck
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    we also want to move to canada.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    mind you, i'd also like part of america, i think.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    ideally, i'd like somewhere warm where i can meet the family at the beach for lunch, have a quick swim and play with them, then pop back to work for an hour or two before coming home to a lovingly prepared feast on the veranda overlooking some of the nicest views in the world, soaking in the glorious weather and a chilled glass of wine from our own grapes.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    holy fucking shit balls that sounds good :happy:
    • CommentAuthorskribbles
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    chris said...ideally, i'd like somewhere warm where i can meet the family at the beach for lunch, have a quick swim and play with them, then pop back to work for an hour or two before coming home to a lovingly prepared feast on the veranda overlooking some of the nicest views in the world, soaking in the glorious weather and a chilled glass of wine from our own grapes.


    lol i was thinking.. that does sound nice.. then had to check.. fuck.. i got that already :D
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    ha ha, pwnt
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      CommentAuthorelliott-20
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    skribbles said...
    chris said...ideally, i'd like somewhere warm where i can meet the family at the beach for lunch, have a quick swim and play with them, then pop back to work for an hour or two before coming home to a lovingly prepared feast on the veranda overlooking some of the nicest views in the world, soaking in the glorious weather and a chilled glass of wine from our own grapes.


    lol i was thinking.. that does sound nice.. then had to check.. fuck.. i got that already :D


    LMAO

    Although wine from ones grapes is a very special talent. :happy:

    Yeah Nicko, the job thing is the only part thats makes me shit my pants. If someone were to come to me and say "Here's a job for you", then I'm gone!
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    lol @ wine from ones grapes is a very special talent

    I'd be gone too, with bells on :smile:
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      CommentAuthorflak
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    Come to the US, it's not as bad as it looks :D

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    we've been making enquiries into moving to germany - none of the sun and own wine (probably) but a 5 hour day working from home with a couple of acres of mountain meadow including a stream full of wild trout is also appealing
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      CommentAuthorGearedUp
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    chris said...ideally, i'd like somewhere warm where i can meet the family at the beach for lunch, have a quick swim and play with them, then pop back to work for an hour or two before coming home to a lovingly prepared feast on the veranda overlooking some of the nicest views in the world, soaking in the glorious weather and a chilled glass of wine from our own grapes.


    So, when's the big move to California?
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    hah! arnie makes me want to come live there. your board meetings look pretty cool!
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008 edited
     
    (i'll guess that advert isn't actually shown in california though, i'll go look for it on the tube...)



    lol, the ending should be "...so when can you start?"
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    west coast of BC is much nicer than California, and we have palm trees, too. (admittedly not native, and only in very sheltered spots).


    Elliot.. i don't know how much you've researched yet, but it's best to have a clear idea of the requirements to get a work visa. it's one thing if you're emigrating.. that's difficult enough, but if you're just looking to live and work here and not become a permanant resident, it gets even more convoluted.

    basically, to work here, you have to have a job offer BEFORE you arrive, and whoever employs you has to certify that no Canadian can do the job that you're being imported to do. there are exceptions, mind you.


    To apply for a work permit from outside Canada, you must submit the following documents:

    * a job offer from a Canadian employer
    * a completed application, that shows that you meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, and
    * written confirmation from Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC) that the employer can hire a foreign worker to fill the job. This confirmation is called a positive labour market opinion.
    ** In most cases, it is up to your employer to get that written confirmation. Information on the labour market opinion is found under Information for Canadian employers on the right-hand side of this page.



    there IS always "buying your way in". right now, i think it's around 150,000 CN. that's approximately how much it costs to open a business here and employ a canadian citizen. employing canadian citizens is where it's at. :)
    lots of information at Immigration Canada http://www.credentials.gc.ca/immigrants/index.asp





    nicko
    , i've heard some pretty draconian stories about people trying to live in SIngapore. at the top of "must" list is: HAVE FAMILY THERE.


    life in singapore is very good for most singaporeans, but the long-term outlook for immigrants is pretty bad. (i'm not just talking about life for poor south indian janitors and construction workers. my my source was a well-paid executive, asia-region director of something for a large software multinational.)

    the economy is highly dependent on foreign workers, but there are severe restrictions on property ownership rights if you are not a singapore national. you basically cannot own residential property there. also, most singaporeans find housing through a government subsidy program, which makes housing very cheap for most people. you will be ineligible, and your rented housing will cost far more than what most people pay, putting you at a serious economic disadvantage. also, you can only stay as long as you are employed there; so, once you've built a life and roots in singapore, when retirement time comes, you get the boot.

    i'm sure there are exceptions to all of these things, and if you are extremely wealthy there are probably ways around all of them.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    Well mick, I'm going into this with my eyes wide open. Mrs nicko was a Singapore permanent resident before she moved to the UK to live with me.

    If I take a job there I will have to accept that I will be taking a massive salary cut but the money isn't what this is about. If I can't secure a job I will be considering opening my own agency there from the proceeds of the sale of our property in the UK.

    Mrs nicko is still a Malaysian national. We bought a house in the State of Johor (20 miles from the border with Singapore) a few years ago.
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    so.. you've got the family thing going for you. :)

    not surprised that your eyes would be wide open; you're not larking. my thoughts didn't assume you were, i just told you what i know (which in this case, was redundant). all in all , it sounds pretty exciting.
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      CommentAuthorelliott-20
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008 edited
     
    Hi Mick,

    Yeah we are looking for a permanent move, whether we become permanent residents we have yet to decide.

    Thanks for the info. We are only in very early stages or research buy we had yet to find anything relating to the positive labour market opinion. Thanks for the heads up, I shall looking into it now. Bottom line is, if there is an ounce of an opportunity then I think we are going to take it. I may even brush up on my french to further our options. :wink:

    I heard Alberta was looking to recruit 50,000 foreign skilled workers over the next year.

    Found the link

    Thanks for the info. I'll keep you posted :smile:
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    'k elliot. one thing to do on the Immigration Canada site is to use the job rating tool (can't recall what it's name is). it tells you what jobs are in high demand, depending on what area you're interested in. ie... graphic designers in Toronto, the prospects are only in the low end of "Fair".
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    i remember doing the canadian immigration test online, and we scored pretty highly. look out!
    • CommentAuthorsinar
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    All this talk of Canada has me thinking of moving back. I just checked out mls.ca, If I cash out now I can get a 3/4 bedroom detached house one hour from Toronto, furnish it, put a car in the driveway and still have enough money to pay myself $30.000 a year for 10 years. Makes me wonder why I still drive the M40/M25/M1 every day????
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    My sister upped and left London about a year and a half ago to move to Thailand. She seems to be really enjoying herself.
    She got a job finalinsing timeshare deals, which pays a bomb when they come through.

    So cheap holidays for me. ^_^

    I'd consider moving somehwere when I'm older but a) and free uni education in scotland is too tempting and b) not seen anough of the world yet.
    A few of my friends and I are going to do an unchained tour across america inspired by Dave Gorman, and again, Canada has always looked appealing. But I do love Scotland so I've always thought it'd be nice to come back here and die in Perthshire. It's where I was born. Beautiful place, and not too remote. ^_^
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      CommentAuthorPants
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
     
    chris said...(i'll guess that advert isn't actually shown in california though, i'll go look for it on the tube...)

    Strangely enough it is. Why? I have no clue. Maybe they don't want us moving away. :tongue:
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    one thing i always worry about when i have thoughts this way the grass is always greener
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    ^ i was talking to someone about this last night, and we both said "ah, but as they say, the grass is al..." at the same time. then chuckled.

    i bet the grass is less green though, due to less rainfall and scorching sun! :D
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      CommentAuthorelliott-20
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    I suppose the grass is greener but hey, you only got one life.

    As an update, found a forum for British expats last night. Currently there is such a backlog to get into Canada it ain't funny. Some people have taken over 3 years just to begin to get processed. Obviously this is quicker if you have a job offer.

    On the other hand, current New Zealand waiting times... about 6 - 8 weeks! :surprised:

    Still weighing it all up
    • CommentAuthorBiff
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    oo, and you can hang with the hobbits in NZ!
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      CommentAuthorGearedUp
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    Hobbits and SHEEP!!!!!
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      CommentAuthornimmot
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    quit picking on base and his girlfriend GU! :p
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    sinar, i wish you'd come around more. :)

    come back to Canada, too.
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    nimmot said...quit picking on base and his girlfriend GU! :p

    :smile:
    :happy: