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    wierd i swear i posted top middle
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    i like the top middle, too :)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    tullis russel delivery today, some mellotex, cypher, advocate and others in there, and a couple of card only stock, like ivoryboard and trucard.

    now, i only got a 100g sample of mellotex, and although i like it, it doesn't beat the conqueror 120g wove. this may be down to weight alone, but hey... nicko - is there likely to be a great difference on price, d'ya reckon? i think that the run is going to be small enough for it not to make much of a difference, tbbh.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    It probably won't make much of a difference chris. 10s of £s I'd say

    Have a look at heavier weights on the Mellotex though
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    yeah, i had asked for some, but the stuff they sent goes 90, 100, 160, 200... i'd have liked something in the middle there, eh. bastahds.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    bastids
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    well blow me, top right it is.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    Bah
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    don't. you. dare.
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      CommentAuthorbaseisdead
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    is the conqueror watermarked?
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    it comes either way (so no).
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    just had quotes back from imex btw, and they are absurd :D
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      CommentAuthorbaseisdead
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    tried pugh's?
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008 edited
     
    i'm waiting on precision atm, then i'll phone imex and haggle (it's imex/DWJ for the litho).

    edit// just popped an email off to pughs, too.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008 edited
     
    base said...tried pugh's?


    ok, that email i 'popped off' to pugh's? i phoned them and they said that the email address i sent the request to was not in use (although it's the one listed on their contact page). ok, so i forwarded the email to an address i was given over the phone - not a problem.

    got the reply -

    hi thanks for the enquiry but we dont print 2 colour work only process colours.




    Rgds
    His Name


    (i copy / pasted it, just changing his name)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    seriously.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    I hate this with printers lately. I'm sick of them telling me that 'our' process solid greens are as good as any pantone solid !!!

    W@nkers
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    thing is, the email i sent was quite long, with a lot of detail. it included a pdf example as an attachment, too. i had to phone them up for them to reply to an email i'd sent. then that's all he sent.

    now, i've not undergone any formal customer service training with their company, but i'd have thought that his reply was slightly "lacking". fuck, if it were me, i'd have offered up a quick full colour digital quote, "just in case" - it's bound to be cheaper than the litho route, and would have maybe led to possible work for them. but, oh no, what did i get?

    "hi we dont do that,

    kthnxbai!"
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    cnuts
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008 edited
     
    this is where i'm at with it atm. i guess my next post will be "god damn it, we went with the cheapest quote and they fucked it right up" ;)
      stationery.png
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    i hope not, that would be a shame
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
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    ive never seen letter paper solid colour on one side before - spiffy

    will it make the frontside rose-tinted?
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    No, i did some for a client recently with a solid purple reverse.

    Just have to make sure you don't spec it on bog paper :smile:
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    i'm pretty sure it will make the front side a different colour, but only noticeable when laid on a white sheet. the idea is that the little circular logo on the back (in white) is visible on the front side.
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      CommentAuthorbaseisdead
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    thats a pretty standard reply from pugh's, lol.
    I didn't realize they were only doing process stuff these days.

    I've seen solid colour reverse, but rarely get the chance to do any - it effectively doubles your costs.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    It'll only double the cost of the stock if it's printed work and turn innit
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      CommentAuthorurbansurgeon
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008 edited
     
    chris said...…the idea is that the little circular logo on the back (in white) is visible on the front side.
    paper weight is critical then?

    too thin and its barbie themed and too thick and its a waste of effort?

    love to see the finished article
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      CommentAuthormick
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008 edited
     
    and i thought i was a paper nerd.
    x


    i like the slash look of that final choice, chris.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    urbansurgeon said...too thin and its barbie themed and too thick and its a waste of effort?

    love to see the finished article


    ...well, it may be the case that it's a bit feint, but it'll definitely show when there's a bit of light behind it, so it wont be a total waste of effort *fingers crossed*

    and of course i'll post some photomagraphs :)
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      CommentAuthorpeak'
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    I've not been following this at all...but finally curiosity got the better of me.

    Love the design-work chris
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    this just in - red = pantone 1795U
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    red = brown?
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      CommentAuthorbaseisdead
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    Should be ok, might look a little pale, have you seen it printed?
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    i've seen it on a pantone swatch, yeah :)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    it's not brown, nicko :(

    (though, the pantone swatches were a little old...)
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    definitely red !
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      CommentAuthorbaseisdead
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    chris said...i've seen it on a pantone swatch, yeah :)


    Oh it will be exactly the same as that then.
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      CommentAuthornicko
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    uncoated swatch looks on the brown side to me, just sayin
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    it's more of a brick red than a true bright or brilliant red
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008 edited
     

    something like that (depending on your monitor calibration, of course hehe)

    to be honest, that looks more orange than it should turn out to be on this imac with srgb monitor profile.
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    if i use the calibrated profile i made, it gets much closer. but hey, it's an approximation. but yeah, it's not bright/brilliant red :)
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      CommentAuthorbull
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2008
     
    heh. i'm hearing the WTF! from the pressman and bindery as i read this....that letterhead would be the job from Hell.
    i hope you can run it on an iGen or Indigo. the cards look great.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    digital is evil !
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    it's going 2-colour litho. even have a bit of black tint overprint.

    tell you what though, i hope the red on the back is flat. and i hope that the registration on the black overprint is spot on. there'll be trouble otherwise!
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    this might be here on friday, thinking about it. i'll take some home and photomagraph them from stupid angles with a really short depth of field and then post them up here ;)
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    Yeah, the red needs to be flat. Ive designed a few letterheads with a solid on the reverse now, all 2 colour, and they've all been flat. The format works well because when you are trying to find the particular letter in a pile / file or whatever, it stands out. Lots of companies are doing it now :)
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    chris said...this might be here on friday, thinking about it. i'll take some home and photomagraph them from stupid angles with a really short depth of field and then post them up here ;)


    Nice. Or even in the corporate identity thread or work finished ;)
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      CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    if i'm happy with it, you wont be able to open a thread here without seeing it - no worries.
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      CommentAuthorsquapple
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    Of course. I cant wait to see those shots :)

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